would you watch Steve Irwin die?


Steve and Conan, together again for the first time!

It seems what I reported here as rumour is indeed true: Steve Irwin said, “If I’m going to die, at least I want it filmed.”

Does that mean he’d want it shown around the world, rather than just to the people who were his friends and family? Does it mean that he’d be okay with it being interrupted every thirty seconds for commercials and stamped with a watermark, as it undoubtably would be?

Would you watch?

from the BBC:

Crocodile hunter Steve Irwin’s final moments were captured on camera. But should that film ever be broadcast to the watching public?

Yes, says Anna Smajdor

No, says Daniel Sokol

Steve Irwin made a career partly based on taking risks with wildlife. His death this week at the barb of a stingray on Australia’s Barrier Reef was filmed, and in a Sydney Morning Herald poll 40% of the 24,000 or so respondents thought it should be shown.

It’s typical of the elite-driven media in the UK that they thought only medical ethicists should be interviewed about this, rather than any other kind of philosophers. This is far too narrow-minded for me; they should, if they really wanted two different viewpoints, have gotten two different kinds of philosophers.

In any case, the answer for me is that I began searching for the video immediately upon hearing news of Steve‘s death. Why? Because I do think he’d be okay with it being broadcast; he was always very clear about the risks of what he was doing and I think that he’d want to show that sometimes you pay the ultimate price. He showed videos of animals dying and dead, and are any of us in any doubt whatsoever that he revered them? He’d have asked for no different treatment himself. If I find the video, I will watch it and post it, with a very clear warning, and you can make your own choices.

I also want to find out what watching the video can tell me. I’ve seen people die in hospitals, and it’s not horrible; worse is watching their faces the moment they realize that their death is inevitable, and close. I’ve read the manual of Afghani Jihad, and the Japanese kamikaze manual, and I’ve learned about myself, the world, and right and wrong by reading those “forbidden tomes.” This is, in its own way, as disturbing, but that in itself is no reason to turn away from it.

That said…do I believe that Steve‘s wishes have to be obeyed? I’ve spent the last few years trying to ensure that my father’s last wishes were obeyed, with mixed success, but I realize very clearly that while the wishes of the dead are to be respected, they do not have to be obeyed. If you wouldn’t obey them when they were alive, it makes no sense to do so when they’re dead, and it is in fact a betrayal of your real relationship.

His family should make the call. They knew him better than anyone, and they’ll have to deal with the fallout. Whatever they say, whether the video makes it to the Net or not, I’ll respect their wishes.

You?

Steve Irwin news roundup

TIAI think I’ve got it all, pretty much. Here are all the posts on this blog about Steve Irwin’s death. A warning to the curious: I am completely, utterly without sense of taste or discretion. Click at your peril.

Steve Irwin, R.I.P. Steve’s FedEx commercial. The news hits.

A Steve Irwin Tribute. Just what it says, something I wrote about my awestruck regard for the man.

No State Funeral for Steve Irwin. Australia offers, the Thumbs up from Steve!family declines. He was just a “regular bloke.” Yeah, but he was the best one.

Stingray apologizes for killing Steve Irwin. And about bloody time, too.

Steve Irwin wants you to watch THAT video. This is for real, or so this website says. Apparently he wanted his death to be broadcast, should it happen on-camera. No official word from the family yet, though.

Today in gruesomely decayed sea monster news. Russia has a sea monster, and here are the pix. Okay, it’s way tasteless of me to do it in Stevespeak, but this is the way Steve WOULD have reported it, if he weren’t dead.

UPDATE:

Would You Watch Steve Irwin Die? Apparently it’s true: Steve wanted his death filmed. But he didn’t actually SAY he wanted it broadcast, so what’s the right thing to do?

About the only thing he did NOT do in real life

today in gruesomely decayed sea monster news

Well mate, it’s abaout bloody toime we had some Sea Monsteh news ‘raond these pahts. Woi’ve bin calamari-deficient feh fah too long.

Oi say we call this one “Sakhalin Sally.”

Ain't she a beauty? Crikey!

Ain’t she a beauty? That evah-reloiable fave-rit o’ soientific jehnalists everywheh, EnglishRussia.com has the repoht.

This creature was found by Russian soldiers on Sakhalin shoreline. Sakhalin area is situated near to Japan, it’s the most eastern part of Russia, almost 5000 miles to East from Moscow (Russia is huge). People don’t know who is it. According to the bones and teeth – it is not a fish. According to its skeleton – it’s not a crocodile or alligator. It has a skin with hair or fur. It has been said that it was taken by Russian special services for in-depth studies, and we are lucky that people who encountered it first made those photos before it was brought away.

Crikey! She's hyoooooooooooge!

Crikey, she’s a big one, eh? She’d hah bin byoodeeful swimmin’ in the woild. But if ye’d be lookin’ at heh teeth an’ saying te yesself, “It looks loike a hohse’s skull upsoide-daown” we’d be thinkin’ the exact saime thing, mate.

But an owld one, roit?

But thet doesn’t accaont feh heh taiol, do it?

See whot Oi moine?

Whot a pity we nevah got ta see this gehl in the woild, swimmin’ free. Aw man, Oi think Oi’m gonna go ave a croi naow.

no state funeral for Steve Irwin

Steve and some critter 

UPDATE IN THE COMMENTS SECTION: Film at eleven?

Although Australia offered a full state funeral, in accordance with his status as a national hero/monument/insane mascot, Steve Irwin‘s family have decided to have a private funeral for him.

from The Australian, via an Absolute Stranger.

Australian
07 Sep 2006
STEVE Irwin will be buried in private after his Crikey!family declined offers of a state funeral, with his father Bob yesterday saying the international celebrity should be remembered as an ordinary bloke.

The laconic, slightly built retired reptile farmer was obviously grief-stricken but he faced the public because it was what his “mate” Steve would have wanted.

Similarly, he declined offers by Prime Minister John Howard and Queensland Premier Peter Beattie for a state funeral.

“He’s just an ordinary bloke and he wanted to be remembered as an ordinary bloke,” said the 66-year-old Mr Irwin, whose two-year-old grandson Bob was named after him.

As Queensland police yesterday locked footage of Irwin‘s death by stingray in a safe, his manager John Stainton said the film was so harrowing it should be destroyed to prevent it ever being made public.

If you go to the front page, you can see that this post has, get this, 4100 comments. For a man who didn’t blog, that’s one hell of a blogstorm.

a Steve Irwin Tribute

I posted this over at Scoble’s site, so I feel no hesitation about cross-posting it here, as there is zero crossover between our readerships. Every time I got cranky about Aussies (like the time six of them drank all the beer in the Bandas in 48 hours and we had to do without for a week till the Pelni ferry brought more) a single reference to Steve Irwin would calm me down. Any nation that can produce a man like that must have more going for it than I could even imagine.

Steve Irwin’s death is a great loss to the world. The sheer beauty of his enthusiasm for animals was inspiring to thousands of people, more than he ever intended or imagined. He was mobbed when he made appearances here in Canada, a fact which never failed to flabbergast him, but in this detached society we simply never get to see that kind of unreserved love; when we do, how can we help but be drawn to it?

I’ll never forget the time Steve was in Kalimantan, climbing trees with the endangered orangutans, and a mother gave him her baby to hold. He was thirty feet up a tree, but even in a long shot you could see his tears falling down like rain.

The man had a gift for not only feeling love, but for expressing that love before the world in a way that made us all around the world honour and share it, if only for a brief time.

And from CNN:

As fellow countrymen and fans from around the world mourned his death, it was announced that a state funeral for Irwin would be held if his family so chose, an Australian state premier said. “We will honor Steve Irwin in whatever way his family wants,” said Queensland Premier Peter Beattie, speaking to CNN affiliate Channel Seven.